Comments on: New Age Rant http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/ reality bizarres the standard Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:45:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: indigoblade http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/#comment-1464 indigoblade Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:30:08 +0000 http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/#comment-1464 everything is true nothing is true i am the buddah buddah is dead i like rocks =^.^= everything is true
nothing is true
i am the buddah
buddah is dead
i like rocks

=^.^=

]]> By: Hey_you http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/#comment-866 Hey_you Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:15:03 +0000 http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/#comment-866 "However, just because I agree with that doesn’t mean that I agree with everything presented in Roberts’ book." I agree. I just take issue at the implication that just because the source of the information (and a lot of the info itself) is unverifiable or seemingly unrealistic it would be foolish to even consider it. "The book is interesting. I agree. However - a lot of things are just blurted out as if it’s absolute fact. That’s what bothers me. And New Age things do that all the time." If some weird cult had formed around the book that would bother me. I mean some people might follow it like a cult, however at the beginning of that book "seth" or Jane Roberts second personality or whatever said that the book should not be taken as absolute truth and that your "inner self" is the only source of that truth (obviously paraphrased). I don't feel that I know for a fact how cat thinks because I read it and I'm sure many people feel the same way. If it was being forced on me as absolute truth then I would be insulted but its not a text book and I chose to read it. Which makes want to defend my decision to read the book. “However, just because I agree with that doesn’t mean that I agree with everything presented in Roberts’ book.”

I agree. I just take issue at the implication that just because the source of the information (and a lot of the info itself) is unverifiable or seemingly unrealistic it would be foolish to even consider it.

“The book is interesting. I agree. However - a lot of things are just blurted out as if it’s absolute fact. That’s what bothers me. And New Age things do that all the time.”

If some weird cult had formed around the book that would bother me. I mean some people might follow it like a cult, however at the beginning of that book “seth” or Jane Roberts second personality or whatever said that the book should not be taken as absolute truth and that your “inner self” is the only source of that truth (obviously paraphrased). I don’t feel that I know for a fact how cat thinks because I read it and I’m sure many people feel the same way.

If it was being forced on me as absolute truth then I would be insulted but its not a text book and I chose to read it. Which makes want to defend my decision to read the book.

]]> By: ClearVision http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/#comment-864 ClearVision Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:18:28 +0000 http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/#comment-864 That realization with New Age being partially BS is a bit late :D. No offense, but looking at any system of belief from a different perspective shows its flaws. The trouble is, what if you can't change perspective because you trust that belief 100% ? Then it takes a bit longer :P, because you start saying "idk why i do it". But eventually, you'll get there. Every religion has its flaws. Really, there is no 100% correct religion/system of beliefs. More like in the range of 1-10% correctness. The rest is just the interpretation of some lunatic control freak trying to manipulate people. If someone made a 100% correct religion, my guess is that it would just disappear because people use it to manipulate others. I.e. BS gets added putting it back into the 5% range. Really... ANY system is flawed. Big generalization, but heck - on closer examination, the evidence becomes undeniable. That realization with New Age being partially BS is a bit late :D. No offense, but looking at any system of belief from a different perspective shows its flaws. The trouble is, what if you can’t change perspective because you trust that belief 100% ? Then it takes a bit longer :P, because you start saying “idk why i do it”. But eventually, you’ll get there.
Every religion has its flaws. Really, there is no 100% correct religion/system of beliefs. More like in the range of 1-10% correctness. The rest is just the interpretation of some lunatic control freak trying to manipulate people. If someone made a 100% correct religion, my guess is that it would just disappear because people use it to manipulate others. I.e. BS gets added putting it back into the 5% range.
Really… ANY system is flawed. Big generalization, but heck - on closer examination, the evidence becomes undeniable.

]]> By: Sean http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/#comment-863 Sean Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:28:32 +0000 http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/#comment-863 "Peebs, you seem to believe that anything that is uncertain (which is a great deal) cannot be taken seriously." Kind of. I feel that if something is uncertain, then it should simply be labeled and presented as uncertain. Jane Roberts, and the New Age movement in general, will present things as fact, when in reality it is not only uncertain, but usually unverifiable! I don't have anything against uncertainty - I love holding thoughts in my head that don't have evidence to back it up. But I simply demand it be labeled correctly. Uncertain is uncertain. Certain is certain. "I thought most everyone here agreed that beliefs make an impact on your health and enjoyment? If you agree with that statement then you agree with Personal Reality." I agree that beliefs make an impact on health and enjoyment. However, just because I agree with that doesn't mean that I agree with everything presented in Roberts' book. The book is interesting. I agree. However - a lot of things are just blurted out as if it's absolute fact. That's what bothers me. And New Age things do that all the time. Even IF Jane is really channeling a spirit (which some might consider a pretty big IF), then: why trust Seth anyways? Seth's a spirit... but I'm a spirit... right? So why does Seth have any more say about how reality works than I do? Plain and simple: he doesn't. *shrugs* :-) ~Sean “Peebs, you seem to believe that anything that is uncertain (which is a great deal) cannot be taken seriously.”

Kind of. I feel that if something is uncertain, then it should simply be labeled and presented as uncertain. Jane Roberts, and the New Age movement in general, will present things as fact, when in reality it is not only uncertain, but usually unverifiable! I don’t have anything against uncertainty - I love holding thoughts in my head that don’t have evidence to back it up. But I simply demand it be labeled correctly. Uncertain is uncertain. Certain is certain.

“I thought most everyone here agreed that beliefs make an impact on your health and enjoyment? If you agree with that statement then you agree with Personal Reality.”

I agree that beliefs make an impact on health and enjoyment. However, just because I agree with that doesn’t mean that I agree with everything presented in Roberts’ book.

The book is interesting. I agree. However - a lot of things are just blurted out as if it’s absolute fact. That’s what bothers me. And New Age things do that all the time.

Even IF Jane is really channeling a spirit (which some might consider a pretty big IF), then: why trust Seth anyways? Seth’s a spirit… but I’m a spirit… right? So why does Seth have any more say about how reality works than I do? Plain and simple: he doesn’t.

*shrugs* :-)

~Sean

]]> By: Hey_you http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/#comment-862 Hey_you Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:31:49 +0000 http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/#comment-862 The entire premise of the book is that beliefs affect your experience for the better or worse. So, believing you are to expand your consciousness (or grow or self-actualize or whatever), will empower. It will make an impact on your decision-making that is beneficial to most people, unless you're a masochist or something. Asking, how do you know? Is a dumb question. You choose the belief that suits you the most. If you believe you are here to expand your consciousness, it is a far better belief than believing that "you can't know anything for certain so don't take any answer to this question seriously". I thought most everyone here agreed that beliefs make an impact on your health and enjoyment? If you agree with that statement then you agree with Personal Reality. The entire premise of the book is that beliefs affect your experience for the better or worse.

So, believing you are to expand your consciousness (or grow or self-actualize or whatever), will empower. It will make an impact on your decision-making that is beneficial to most people, unless you’re a masochist or something.

Asking, how do you know? Is a dumb question. You choose the belief that suits you the most. If you believe you are here to expand your consciousness, it is a far better belief than believing that “you can’t know anything for certain so don’t take any answer to this question seriously”.

I thought most everyone here agreed that beliefs make an impact on your health and enjoyment? If you agree with that statement then you agree with Personal Reality.

]]> By: Renodin http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/#comment-861 Renodin Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:52:18 +0000 http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/#comment-861 I agree that New Age stuff is nothing but day old bologna. "you are here to expand your consciousness"? They are saying that, when half the people I know don't even know what a conscious is! They are saying our meaning of life is to expand our consciousness. Here is my theory on the meaning of life. I believe that life has no one reason, but billions of reasons. I believe that every single person has his or her own meaning in life. Whether it is just to help one person live their life in a good way or to make a huge difference in the world. That is what I believe. I agree that New Age stuff is nothing but day old bologna.

“you are here to expand your consciousness”? They are saying that, when half the people I know don’t even know what a conscious is! They are saying our meaning of life is to expand our consciousness. Here is my theory on the meaning of life.

I believe that life has no one reason, but billions of reasons. I believe that every single person has his or her own meaning in life. Whether it is just to help one person live their life in a good way or to make a huge difference in the world. That is what I believe.

]]> By: Hey_you http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/#comment-860 Hey_you Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:29:23 +0000 http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/#comment-860 I had to reply to this because I mentioned Personal Reality in the comments section of a previous post. First of all I agree that everything that is currently unverifiable is suspect. I read Personal Reality and enjoyed it. It had a positive effect on me overall. So, yeah I read it from the "this interesting" perspective. Do I unquestioningly believe everything that is written in that book? Hell no. Most of what that book was about is the premise that your beliefs effect your health. This is a scientific fact. The placebo effect is an example of this. So, the basic message of the book is valid. The extra detail is of course at the moment is suspect to me but I'm not just going to bash because I'm not sure its correct. Peebs, you seem to believe that anything that is uncertain (which is a great deal) cannot be taken seriously. There is no certain answer to many questions so you pick a rock and stand on it as long as it suits you. This is also a basic message of Personal Reality. Most New Age is anecdotal and wishful thinking. I'm not a fan of Deepak Chopra. I'm interested in science. www.skeptiko.com is a great link on the subject. I had to reply to this because I mentioned Personal Reality in the comments section of a previous post.

First of all I agree that everything that is currently unverifiable is suspect. I read Personal Reality and enjoyed it. It had a positive effect on me overall. So, yeah I read it from the “this interesting” perspective. Do I unquestioningly believe everything that is written in that book? Hell no.

Most of what that book was about is the premise that your beliefs effect your health. This is a scientific fact. The placebo effect is an example of this.

So, the basic message of the book is valid. The extra detail is of course at the moment is suspect to me but I’m not just going to bash because I’m not sure its correct.

Peebs, you seem to believe that anything that is uncertain (which is a great deal) cannot be taken seriously. There is no certain answer to many questions so you pick a rock and stand on it as long as it suits you. This is also a basic message of Personal Reality.

Most New Age is anecdotal and wishful thinking. I’m not a fan of Deepak Chopra.

I’m interested in science. www.skeptiko.com is a great link on the subject.

]]> By: PotentiaL http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/#comment-859 PotentiaL Sat, 06 Oct 2007 19:12:35 +0000 http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/#comment-859 "Sounds like a bunch of New Age hooooey!" ~Jack Black “Sounds like a bunch of New Age hooooey!”

~Jack Black

]]> By: Antisankari http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/#comment-858 Antisankari Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:47:29 +0000 http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/#comment-858 I think like this about science. People say there are no psychic abilities, but how do they know? Most scientists have no reason to beleive what they beleive yet they do. I try to make them realize this but they just get angry. So I ask them..Why do you beleive? And they say “idk” or something. ^^ I think like this about science. People say there are no psychic abilities, but how do they know? Most scientists have no reason to beleive what they beleive yet they do. I try to make them realize this but they just get angry. So I ask them..Why do you beleive? And they say “idk” or something.

^^

]]> By: Gumby http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/#comment-857 Gumby Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:24:36 +0000 http://alittleweird.com/2007/10/06/new-age-rant/#comment-857 So I think thats how your thinking about New Age. Hehe sorry for the double post but I forgot to add that part. So I think thats how your thinking about New Age. Hehe sorry for the double post but I forgot to add that part.

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